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Nested vSphere Lab – ideas?

By Vladan SEGET | Last Updated: February 17, 2017

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Nested vSphere Lab concept is getting more and more popular than physical lab with a couple of whiteboxes and shared storage. In my usual quest for best vSphere homelab I was recently thinking of different solutions. As always, get the best possible price/performance/usability scenario. Currently in my lab I'm running 2 whiteboxes with vSphere 5.1 installed on USB stick. Both boxes, each with 18Gb of RAM,  2 NAS boxes providing shared storage. In addition I added recently 250 Gb Flash drives to each of those boxes as local storage. You might say, good enough, just wait for vVolumes in v 6.0… -:)

I saw few good labs being mounted recently. Both scaling up for All-in-one Box, and  destined to run nested workloads only from local SSD storage. The first one, it's been some time ago, which was very briefly showed by Eric Sloof here Gb of RAM, with Intel E5-2603 1.8Ghz Quadcores CPUs, and the other one by Ed Grigson here, 64Gb of RAM, with 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2603, 1.8GHz, 4 cores. Both running on Supermicro Server Motherboards. In addition, those boards provide remote KVM which can be nice feature to play with.

Both of them I imagine replaced their existing whiteboxes. At least Ed did replaced 3 whiteboxes (each with 8Gb of RAM) in his lab…. Concerning the storage, one can go the SSD way, since the prices of SSDs keeps dropping, and we'll have 1Tb SSD's for $600 in very near future. From Crucial and from OCZ. You can use VMDirectPath and spinup some Nexenta or other VSA to provide shared storage, and I don't think that the performance will suffer too much.

All-In-One Box for nested vSphere Lab

Nesting of ESXi hosts as VMs is used in VMware Labs during VMworld since years and also HOL Online are using this technology. I won't solve the equation on which way to go, today, but just laying down some thoughts of which hardware, which CPU, etc… knowing that those Supermicro boards supports up to 512 Gb of RAM with two CPUs. Is that sufficient for running the whole VMware as vCloud in a Box?

What's your thought? Are you rather multiple boxes – shared storage? Or are you planning going All-in-One vSphere Nested? Want to hear from you. React, comment, share…. -:).

Read also my article on How-to Check if your host is capable to run nested ESXi

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About Vladan SEGET

This website is maintained by Vladan SEGET. Vladan is as an Independent consultant, professional blogger, vExpert x16, Veeam Vanguard x9, VCAP-DCA/DCD, ESX Virtualization site has started as a simple bookmarking site, but quickly found a large following of readers and subscribers.

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  1. Karim says

    February 6, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Hi Vladan !
    Nice article that makes me want to sky the limit of my home lab…
    i’ll keep you informed of my configuration…

    Cheers,

    Karim.

  2. Carl says

    February 7, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    The complexity of managing multiple servers and shared storage (space, heat, power) probably means the nested approach is one I will take soon.

    Vladan – you mention you have two NAS Servers now – Are these still FreeNas – and how have you found Freenas over the past 6 months?

    • Vladan SEGET says

      February 7, 2013 at 11:00 pm

      Yes, one of them is FreeNAS, but running out of 4 SATA drives. I’m using it mostly for storing my ISOs.. I’m trying to run as much workflow as possible from the local SSDs directly in my 2 boxes.

      • Carl says

        February 7, 2013 at 11:28 pm

        Do you mind if I ask what the Second NAS box is.

        I also have FreeNas, but wondered what other alternatives you are using

        • Vladan SEGET says

          February 8, 2013 at 8:11 am

          Sure, The second one is Drobo, older model called Elite. 8bay SATA hooked through iSCSI. The Drobo is rock solid, but still SATA… I’m kind of ani-spinning disks. Especially when you’re in the same room… -:)

  3. Gavin says

    February 22, 2013 at 4:00 am

    Hello,

    Good read, imspired me to have a go at doing an All-In-One running pretty sweet now and expanded a little on the simple home lab. Have just finished a write up if you want to check it out.. http://rammstyletech.blogspot.com.au/

    Cheers, and thank you!

    • Vladan SEGET says

      February 22, 2013 at 8:10 am

      Amazing post… -:) Really inspiring..

  4. Renault says

    May 15, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    Hi Vladan,

    Nice article, Do you have minimum configuration to make vCloud in one box with nested esxi 6?

    Thank you in advance..

    Best Regards,

    Renault

    • Vladan SEGET says

      May 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm

      Depends on what exactly you want to run at the same time. Calculate especially the memory requirements… SSDs storage is not “the price” problem any longer today…

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